(JollofNews) – The former interim leader of the PPP, Omar Jallow, (OJ) has said that Bakary Dabo, a former vice president in the Jawara government who recently lost the party’s leadership election to Papa Njie, has no ‘credibility’ to lead the PPP because he had once accused the party’s regime of ‘endemic corruption’.
Addressing a press conference to respond to criticisms of fraud in the recent party congress by a splinter PPP group perceived to be supporting BB, which also called for the leadership to resign, OJ alleged that BB’s credibility was first compromised when he decided to join the AFPRC junta which overthrew a constitutionally elected government he himself served for 13 years as VP and Minister.
“He went with Jawara to Senegal and betrayed him to come back to serve as minister of finance under Yahya Jammeh. A recent testimony at the TRRC is a clear corroboration and manifestation of that terrible mistake he made,” OJ said.
OJ who is perceived to be supporting Papa Njie, further charged that if BB as the second in command under the PPP government for ten years accused that same PPP of endemic corruption “then he himself was the chairman of that endemic corruption.”
“When has he rejoined the PPP after accusing the party of endemic corruption and lack of accountability? It is unfortunate that such people are given chance to lead. If people like him lead this country, we will remain backward. We will never accept people like him anymore; those days are gone. We wanted unity in our party that is why we tolerated and accommodated everybody. We have tolerated him for far too long and enough is enough,” he asserted.
OJ called on the new PPP leadership to take action against BB Dabo and his colleagues for violating the principles of the party.
To illustrate his point OJ produced and circulated a copy of a letter purportedly written by BB to the international community accusing the PPP government of endemic corruption to justify his decision of joining the junta.
“So where is the credibility of this man?” he asked.
OJ also denied claims that he called BB’s wife to ask her to convince BB to accept the ministerial offer from Jammeh, adding that when BB was appointed minister he [OJ] was languishing in jail.
He said BB is not even qualified to be a PPP member because he is still AFPRC since he has not resigned from there. “Ask him whether he has contributed a Butut to the PPP when he was in exile. Ask him how much he contributed for the congress and where was he in the past 22-years. It is unfortunate that these people have forced me to say all these,” OJ said. He further alleged that all the people supporting BB at the congress are UDP supporters. “They live in my former constituency. I was approached to stop them from voting but I ignored that and allowed them to vote. Our congress was the most opened and transparent congress in this country. I was disappointed to hear claims that there were so many irregularities at the congress. I have high respect for BB Dabo but the truth has to be said,” he concluded.
Written by Omar Bah
The rant of OJ has laid bare the irreconcilable differences within the PPP camp. I am not a supporter of PPP but as an outside observer, I believe that both BB Dabo and Papa Njie do not have the requisite integrity to lead a political in the country.
BB Dabo for the poor judgement of accepting a position in Junta in the immediate aftermath of the coup. There is just no excuse for his action and in politics such a grave poor judgement remains unforgivable.
Papa is the nail on the coffin of PPP. Party Statutory speaking, until his nomination and selection as candidate for the position of party leader, he is not a party nor executive member. And even if he was briskly admitted by OJ and thus legally contested, his recent political opportunism makes him an extreme bad choice for a party wishing to be appealing to the broad section of the population.
He was UDP, exited that party after losing the KMC mayoral-ship primary selection process. Became independent and lost the election and now clinched the PPP leadership all within a year.
Now young educated people need to lead the country. Older timer need to relaxed and gives good advice.
I think every society needs its young to lead for any meaningful and sustainable development efforts to occur, but the call for the youths to lead must not be equated with a call to “topple” the old guard, which seems to be the understanding in many Gambians.
Often, when I listen to discussions or read opinion on the matter, the impression I get is that young people must now become the leaders and be allowed to manage state affairs, whilst the “old” guard (still relatively young by global leadership standards, including the West, until recently) must all take a back seat.
This is the surest way of messing ourselves up, if you ask me.
There is nothing wrong to allow the young assume the mantle of leadership from the old guard. But as you rightly commented Bax, that change of guard must not be mistaken for exchanging leaders with dodgy characters like Papa Njie who have not being tested with leadership challenges nor had being in a party during her struggling years.
The young must not be entitled. On the contrary, we (myself included) must earn the mantle of leadership through a dedicated, long-time engagement in a party and/ or association.
The current political leaders, in my view, except for Papa Njie, have being leading their respective parties during the most violent repression against dissent in the history of contemporary Gambia. To insinuate that these leaders are “old fogey” is very opportunistic, irresponsible and shoots behind the goal post. The young in these parties need to be patient and learn the handicraft of politics and duly climb the echelons of these Party structures in order to effectively lead them.
Papa Njie will preside over an already diminished political party that will henceforth have no significant impact in the political arena.
According to reporter Omar Bah, the statement below is attributable to Mr Omar Jallow (OJ).
“He said BB is not even qualified to be a PPP member because he is still AFPRC since he has not resigned from there. “Ask him whether he has contributed a Butut to the PPP when he was in exile. Ask him how much he contributed for the congress and where was he in the past 22-years. It is unfortunate that these people have forced me to say all these,” OJ said. He further alleged that all the people supporting BB at the congress are UDP supporters. “They live in my former constituency. I was approached to stop them from voting but I ignored that and allowed them to vote. Our congress was the most opened and transparent congress in this country. I was disappointed to hear claims that there were so many irregularities at the congress. I have high respect for BB Dabo but the truth has to be said”.
While I am not a big fan of BB Darbo or any close associates of the PPP, I don’t believe that OJ has the moral authority to label BB Darbo as a corrupt and or morally bankrupt individual for indeed it was only BB that called out for the review and restructuring of the inept and corrupt Area Councils that The Gambia had in place at the time. I must add that the councils are more than inept at this moment.
The rest of the PPP ministers and legislators not only stayed mute but encouraged Alhaji Yaya Ceeesay and his cabal to pick a fight with BB in the attempt to muzzle him. While the fight was on, others in positions of power at the time chose to look the other way while the late Landing Jallow Sonko, Bakary Kuti Sanyang and the very Alhaji Yaya Ceesay, that is now a PPP father figure, plundered our land resources.
OJ needs to hush now and ride into the sunset as he is as corrupt as they came in the PPP regime. He must stop the business of the pity party, his trade mark, and claims to bullying by the APRC regime and live with the fact that he had his chance as Minister of Water Resources, Agriculture and Natural Resources and elsewhere but by his own making, blew those chances away. OJ must surely be able to recall gifting out fishing licenses to his Serekunda cronies, our man, last name Samba, before he gained name recognition under the APRC.
Now that himself, BB and Alhaji Yaya are walking to the grave, they must live with the reality that it may be too late to make amends to the Gambian people! The experiences with repression that they have collectively had over time was of their own making. If they did good during their tenure in office and not plundered our resources, the Lord Almighty could have saved them from the ordeal. They are all worse than sinners and Pharisees in my book! In Wolof, the adage goes that, MAGG BAAHH NA CHI KERR but not the that kind of MAGG/KEBAA wallowing in scum as part of dirty party apparatchiks.
What donations did you make to the PPP OJ? You mean throw your chicken change from what’s left of the Sadaa Daano/Woyaan in the diaspora at the PPP while you keep the bulk of the almighty Dollar for yourself, your family and Marabouts.
Muna OJ, Maa Kuu, Saa Kuu. And while you’re at it, be honest enough to remind your boys/henchmen that the days of PPP plunder, Coparr Thief (Cooperative Union) and other largesse will never come back and no Marabout can bring that back! I still regret my decision to donate to an OJ and Wisainou Sadaa Daano fund in the US.
My advice is to stop the infighting as the PPP is a moribund party in any progressive Gambian’s book. Unless you are Mwalimu lurking in the shadows. My advice to BB on the other hand is to fix the old house at Cape Point, bring the Nomo Nyolu back and retire quietly. The sea breeze may just work wonders for him while those Keh Jango legs may just become stronger on account of the Magnesium, Potassium and other discrete elements in the salty environment. Smile.
And Kemo, the OJ fellow? Kuma Taa Daa as said in Manding. He’s ever been a mooch, a showboat and scoundrel. That’ll never change. A rant is exactly what he keeps offering. Kemo, yourself and others would have found relevance if only we had the foresight pre-coalition, like Mai Fatty, Gomez and OJ, to band together as a political party that would ride on the sympathy of being tortured by the Jammeh regime. Someone could easily have become Minister of Agriculture and do better than OJ selling his sorry story of pity plus the revival of the Gambia Cooperative Union. Wasn’t that an insult to our collective intelligence?
Yes, Papa Njai may have found another window of opportunity in true fashion but that’s just it. It’ll all just fizzle out. The PPP again? Same old faces with no do-over?Paleeaase! E BAY SUNG! AYE SACHH LANU! Wolves in sheep’s wool they are.
Tafel, show me a clean and untainted person in what’s left of the PPP and I will show you modern day Saint!
According to reporter Omar Bah, the statement below is attributable to Mr Omar Jallow (OJ).
“He said BB is not even qualified to be a PPP member because he is still AFPRC since he has not resigned from there. “Ask him whether he has contributed a Butut to the PPP when he was in exile. Ask him how much he contributed for the congress and where was he in the past 22-years. It is unfortunate that these people have forced me to say all these,” OJ said. He further alleged that all the people supporting BB at the congress are UDP supporters. “They live in my former constituency. I was approached to stop them from voting but I ignored that and allowed them to vote. Our congress was the most opened and transparent congress in this country. I was disappointed to hear claims that there were so many irregularities at the congress. I have high respect for BB Dabo but the truth has to be said”.
While I am not a big fan of BB Darbo or any close associates of the PPP, I don’t believe that OJ has the moral authority to label BB Darbo as a corrupt and or morally bankrupt individual for indeed it was only BB that called out for the review and restructuring of the inept and corrupt Area Councils that The Gambia had in place at the time. I must add that the councils are more than inept at this moment.
The rest of the PPP ministers and legislators not only stayed mute but encouraged Alhaji Yaya Ceeesay and his cabal to pick a fight with BB in the attempt to muzzle him. While the fight was on, others in positions of power at the time chose to look the other way while the late Landing Jallow Sonko, Bakary Kuti Sanyang and the very Alhaji Yaya Ceesay, that is now a PPP father figure, plundered our land resources.
OJ needs to hush now and ride into the sunset as he is as corrupt as they came in the PPP regime. He must stop the business of the pity party, his trade mark, and claims to bullying by the APRC regime and live with the fact that he had his chance as Minister of Water Resources, Agriculture and Natural Resources and elsewhere but by his own making, blew those chances away. OJ must surely be able to recall gifting out fishing licenses to his Serekunda cronies, our man, last name Samba, before he gained name recognition under the APRC.
Now that himself, BB and Alhaji Yaya are walking to the grave, they must live with the reality that it may be too late to make amends to the Gambian people! The experiences with repression that they have collectively had over time was of their own making. If they did good during their tenure in office and not plundered our resources, the Lord Almighty could have saved them from the ordeal. They are all worse than sinners and Pharisees in my book! In Wolof, the adage goes that, MAGG BAAHH NA CHI KERR but not the that kind of MAGG/KEBAA wallowing in scum as part of dirty party apparatchiks.
What donations did you make to the PPP OJ? You mean throw your chicken change from what’s left of the Sadaa Daano/Woyaan in the diaspora at the PPP while you keep the bulk of the almighty Dollar for yourself, your family and Marabouts.
Muna OJ, Maa Kuu, Saa Kuu. And while you’re at it, be honest enough to remind your boys/henchmen that the days of PPP plunder, Coparr Thief (Cooperative Union) and other largesse will never come back and no Marabout can bring that back! I still regret my decision to donate to an OJ and Wisainou Sadaa Daano fund in the US.
My advice is to stop the infighting as the PPP is a moribund party in any progressive Gambian’s book. Unless you are Mwalimu lurking in the shadows. My advice to BB on the other hand is to fix the old house at Cape Point, bring the Nomo Nyolu back and retire quietly. The sea breeze may just work wonders for him while those Keh Jango legs may just become stronger on account of the Magnesium, Potassium and other discrete elements in the salty environment. Smile.
And Kemo, the OJ fellow? Kuma Taa Daa as said in Manding. He’s ever been a mooch, a showboat and scoundrel. That’ll never change. A rant is exactly what he keeps offering. Kemo, yourself and others would have found relevance if only we had the foresight pre-coalition, like Mai Fatty, Gomez and OJ, to band together as a political party that would ride on the sympathy of being tortured by the Jammeh regime. Someone could easily have become Minister of Agriculture and do better than OJ selling his sorry story of pity plus the revival of the Gambia Cooperative Union. Wasn’t that an insult to our collective intelligence?
Yes, Papa Njai may have found another window of opportunity in true fashion but that’s just it. It’ll all just fizzle out. The PPP again? Same old faces with no do-over?Paleeaase! E BAY SUNG! AYE SACHH LANU! Wolves in sheep’s wool they are.
Tafel, show me a clean and untainted person in what’s left of the PPP and I will show you modern day Saint!
Yeah, @Tafel. I think i basically acquiesce to what you’ve just said above, though I can’t afford to refute what @Bax and @Kinteh Kemo said too. I, for instance, may be one with glittering ideas and probably also skilled enough to change the wheels of my cart, but that’s just perhaps only one and not the most important criterion for public offices, especially the top ones.
One could be youth in its definitions, but just that, isn’t
enough. We, also me, need a lot to learn from those we may be referring to as the ‘old’. How? They need to teach us where, how and why they wrong and failed. The latter is an obligation on every elderly statesman and woman who had worked under public oath.
The ‘youths’ aspiring for
leadership in the republic of
the Gambia should be –
1. properly educated,
socially and academically
2. honest
3. smart in their worldview
4. a master in democracy by
attitude and principle.
5. humble -[no sucker of the
“yaabah yaabah” thing]
enough, to understand that
the shoemaker, peanut
vendor and etc.’s paid taxes
are sacred when it has to be
spent
6. be roles models who
shouldn’t flip off banknotes
at social events or public
gatherings
7. be innovative, not by getting
the mindsets of the rest of the
other young people addled,
by luring them into
movements with
obvious dubious partisan
political agendas
8. be capable of answering
journalists’ questions with
clear ideas in clear language
9. be just individuals in their
capacities and cannot give
the impression that, they as
individuals are the very
institutions
These criteria above are my expectations from aspiring youthful leader/s. As custom, some would say, “hey, no man is God”. Of course we are only human, but if people can’t deliver in public office, they should simply stay out of it.
@Andrew Pjalo, nying mang keh mangsaalingoluti ì mangkeh sandoolutì. A kumaayatale baakeh/ am nah soolo loohl/ ommojjí. I have really expected a response from you on – if many of our mangsaalingolu are not counterproductive. To me, a lot of them sound with notes of either vengeance, deceit, contempt, myth or superstition. I wouldn’t dispute there are a few more or less like good fables though.
I agree with my client too, @Jack. ‘It’, all should be a momentum and great deal of opportunity for all those ‘young people’ today, aspiring for public offices, to learn the lessons now, to be well braced up beforehand, rather than to learn a lesson later, in a public office. It could be quite an act of bravery to oneself, to know your are a scoundrel when you really are. Senior statesmen with such thumps-down legacy should humbly retire to writing memoirs of how they ended up failures of oath of public offices and what integrities they think they may have lacked in so doing. It’s the same if one indeed hadn’t been a scoundrel. They as well should volunteer in counseling the ‘young people’ on how not to be come scoundrels in public office and in general – in wonderful heart striking literature – while taking their breath of cool marine breeze at their coastal recesses.
Aye, Andrew. Thanks for the shiny katana-blade-chapter. It has taught me I have a lot more to learn than I have learned, even though it might seem to me to be getting too late to learn more.
For instance to me, as a young Gambian, as far as public offices are concerned, my wings are fragile and can’t fly past its thorny exit gate. Therefore, I know I shouldn’t be near there and glad I’ve learned that as my reality. What I’m hoping for after all is that, well educated people of integrity would fill the right vacancies in senior public offices.
Nevertheless Andrew, I was right! You are a master of the great complicated Chaalo anatomy. The microscope you placed it under seems to be bought upmarket. Please take it with a smile!
Ain’t lurking, not a bit. Mwalimu is just afflicted health wise for a period of time now. I try to save energy for my recovery.
Am surprised that I am not a progressive in Andy’s book. And I would like to ask him at this point how he came to conclusion. Andy you owe me an explanation.
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As to the internal theatrics happening inside the most colonial invested party in The Gambia, I have very little to say except this: nearly all parties in The Gambia are experiencing a turbulent moment because they have to (re)position themselves for the new political realities that guarantees everything and nothing.
BUT, I will agree with Andy that Humarr Jallow and Bakarr are birds of the same flock. They have both proven to be thieves with an A+ in nepotism and a high capacity for cheap self aggrandizement. Bakarr has made all his relatives rich from our coffers just like Humarr and all PPP operatives. Nothing new there except the shame they should be carrying to the grave.
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Papa Njie is the new kind of political animal in the country called “gii kang buwoolu”. They are not loyal to any principles or issues. The highest bidder can own their souls without blinking an eye lid.
Just look around and such fools abound.
Mwalimu, welcome back and hope you make a very quick recovery.
Anyway, I would like you to give one good similarity between Humaru and Bakari. Bakari, I understand, was the one and only counterpoise to the blatant corruption of the PPP regime. It was not that much a secret that he was despised by most cabinet members and high profile figures of the PPP regimes for his lack of taste for “yaabah waay thing” and the culture and tradition of corruption in the Gambia. He worked too, as finance minister or something in the thugs’ regime for a short while and fled in exile perhaps because he sees the eminent dangers like one that had befallen a national asset, Ousman Koro Ceesay. In a country where evil menacingly and gallantly hovers over good, there would be that tendency of the best citizens despised and their resourcefulness wasted.
Bra Bourne, I Yierry you. (Krio).
Indeed I will take credit for my mastery of the Chaalo anatomy that came on account of the time that I spent listening and watching the Kotokelu closely through the Rang Rang, Ponda/Kangkango, the Kuma Nyambaaso and Mangsaalingolu. Also talk about my Manjak connection that afforded me the opportunity to thrive on Chaalo, Maany Banyango Ning Tulu Say (Chaalo/Bonga fish on a bed of white rice that’s sprinkled with a healthy dose of palm oil). I’d urge TILLY BO to sample that for a test of street savvy. Maybe that’s just what Mwalimu needs to get out of his sick bed.
Mwalimu, E Ning Cheh? Get well soon my brother and if it’ll offer a placebo effect, I’d loudly claim that our Mwalimu is indeed a Progressive. He has all the writing to attest to that. You may just have a case of Fula Kajay as Badibunkas would put it. I had to get over my own bout with Badibunka Kajay that was triggered by the environmental challenges at Kambi Bolongo. However, in typical Badibunka fashion, I made do with Manangkaaso and Jambakatango! Keep smiling and stay warm and come back to tell me WHY the SIS are opening up new offices in Kombo Brikama and other rural centers. An “NIA” terror state in the making all over AGAIN? Muna Haadama? Kebaa Dibbi Kono Lo Laa, Ning Molu May Jeh…….
Bourne this Mansaalingo is in kind humor. I’m addicted to this stuff! Smile.
Yes Mwalimu. The PPP were birds of the same feather. So BB (Dembo) and OJ (Humarr) would, in my book, be Keng Ning Tulu! Could Wisainou be any better?
Move on Kotokelu, move on! You can have Domorr Foday too!
I’ll save my powder for later.
I was shocked to read about SIS Boss laying the foundation stone for an SIS Office. I thought intelligence agencies do their things discretely. They could operate an office or station next to you and you wouldn’t suspect a thing. One would have thought that they would be discreet in their operations, if their aim is just intelligence gathering and analysis.
May be I’m just a cynic, but you have to wonder if this public show is not a subtle attempt to intimidate the public, knowing our perception and fear of the agency, as NIA.
Andrew Pjalo, I agree the PPP regime was corrupt but I need to be convinced individuals of the infamous teeri kafoo were all one and the same corrupt and intellectually backward elements. I think there had been indications that there was some amount of sanity in the psyche of people like Bakarr. I had he was despised by the majority of the teeri kafoo. If that was true, one needs to ask himself-why was he despised?
Diboo nying nyanta bangnalede. Diboo nying ming kebaalu kataa loo akono wo leh dindingolu bae kasaara. Dindingolu yaa long neh saayin munaatin’nah i bataata. Keebaalu jamaabaa katara diboo leh kono dorong.
“Baari nying kebaalu beh mu dingdingoleti kabiring ibeh dunna Mansa Kunda Kono deh.”
I can’t match your Mandinka literally skills, but what I’m trying to say is that these oldies of today were youths when they entered public life or government in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s.
Meaning that the “bataa” that the youths of today are facing is due to the inability of the youths of yesterday, who were in government, to put our country on the right trajectory to development.
The youths of tomorrow will face the same “bataa”, if the youths of today who get into government, fail to adopt the right strategies for our country.
Bax, I’ve accorded to that view of your in an earlier post you made with my honest ‘nyambaasoo’. Can’t match my Mandinka skills?? I doubt if there’s not a bit of sarcasm in that note. When it comes to the languages of the country, can’t afford not looking up to Andrew Pjalo, Mwalimu and yourself. I always suspect you guys could be geniuses in that aspect. I wouldn’t like to be addicted some of the folk tale, riddles and proverbs in them though. For instance, a prayer goes like; “God don’t make enemy scarce to me but don’t let enemies overcome me”! So you can understand from such saying that in some of our cultures/traditions, more enemies you make means a proof of the enemy-maker’s valiance. Then let’s go make some enemies even when we have no reasons to, eh …
I cannot believe that OJ has actually openly said the things he is reported to have said about BB Darboe. Where has ethics gone? Where has courtesy, respect and diplomacy gone?
OJ can question BB’s contribution to the PPP during its difficult days, but as an elder statesman, a former colleague in Cabinet and interim leader trying to revive the party, he should never “wash” such “dirty linen” in public.
There are certain things that leaders just don’t do and losing it in public is definitely not the mark of a good leader. A leader MUST always treat people with respect and courtesy in public, even if he/she is boiling inside with fury.
As for the PPP, I think the ascension of Papa Njie, a questionable party member, to the helm of their party presents many chalkenges, amongst which is the question of his sincerity and commitment to the party’s ideals, given his recent record with different political groups.
Some may see this as indicative of the welcoming and democratic nature of the PPP, but for me, a democracy which doesn’t test the suitability of candidate for a particular job, is not a democracy I want to see in The Gambia. But we must respect their choice and see how it works out for them.
@Andy:
In the article below, I addressed the director of the criminal SIS in no uncertain terms, that he should desist from trying to set a precedence in our new and fragile political dispensation, in curtailing individual freedoms.
https://www.thegambiatimes.com/silence-them-before-they-grow/
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The problem though, is that, we could hardly keep up with their intellectual retardedness (am not using that phrase lightly).
Just think about it. When you think it couldn’t get any worse, something else happens that shatters our collective trust to the core. The sequence of events is always like experiencing a storm knowing fully well it will be followed by an earth quake. How does one prepare oneself for the actions of such a government?
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I would suggest the offices of the NIA/SIS should be turned into a cottage mango juice pressing and packaging facility for income generation activities for those living within that area.
The police could be capasitized through human rights training and cross-border crimes to handle the works of such a tainted and unnecessary institution in The Gambia.
But they will not listen, unfortunately. Power deafens and blinds the weak to good counsel.
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Thanks for the get well soon wishes. Am working on it with a healthy dose of boiled moringa and chaali peppe suppoo.
@Bourne:
I thank you for too for the speedy recovery wishes. I did not see your post asking for similarities between Humarr and Bakarr(i).
I would have reply to that first. Forgive it lapse in concentration.
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Both men have served in the PPP regime that oversaw the second worst governance climate in The Gambia. The ministers (including these two diriimos) voted in cabinet to approve the catastrophic ERP imposed on The Gambia the international murderer fund (IMF).
We are also witnesses to the extravagant and lavish life styles ministers under Dawda lived. A certain multi million company is existing in The Gambia from money stollen from the government. The owner is a relative of Bakarr. He stepped in to kill the case.
I mean…….he can claim in those days to be holier than thou, but the facts will be in total contradiction.
Mwalimu, those revelations are shocking and dishearting. Yeah, it’s perhaps well accurate to
refer to the level of morality of the then PPP bigwigs in the one coin: “kegno ning duulino”
I would say i can’t agree more with you in your previous post above suggesting the SIS/NIA facility be converted to a juice factory. I bet if the question was asked in an international quiz- what the building could be by looking at it architecturally, the larger percentage would say- it’s a small factory. A few might think it’s a veterinary or …
*disheartening
Better still Mwalimu and Bourne, at the crossroads of whether to have the NIA/SIS as an agency or not, let’s put the question to a referendum at the next elections.
I can bet anything that the Gambian people will vote to do away with this onerous instrument of terror.
Wisainou, OJ and others can choose to forgive the agents/agency that slapped them around but the Gambian people cannot forgive the stench that this instrument of terror sent wafting over the whole nation. A half baked Ousman Sowe cannot clean that dirty slate in this generation. Building office blocks is just throwing good money after bad.
Bourne, Mansaalingo and Sando are tests of wit, humor and language skills. So my pal Bax May have hailed from Sandu or Kantora. Smile.
A free Mansaalingo doesn’t have to convey pain or suffering Bourne.
How about, Jalo Singo Beh Forango to or Ka Haadama Kuruu Singsing Bulandi? Smile.
Ok Andrew Pjalo, if you say so but then, how about when a president talks or public office holder talks like – “doola kooroo mu doola kairoo leti” or “ninn doo faa mang saa doo faa bukka mansayaa”? How about putting to use jargons like “niiye ninsoo siti daameng a ka baluuwoleto”?
Andrew, the use and belief in many of those Mangsaalingolu especially in the country’s administration systems definitely is a conveyor of pain and suffering. Mangsaalingolu themselves may not be harmful but how we understand and conceptualize them.
Why don’t you guys put the idiomatic expressions first into two categories, the positives and the negatives. Where as the positives reinforce social cohesion and mutual coexistence and the negatives could (potentially) evoke pain and legitimize anti social behavior. Am only making a suggestion, lol.
Not forgetting to mention every society and language has its own peculiarities as could be gleaned from this English idiomatic expression: One mans poison, is another mans medicine.
The self proclaimed saints (the pink skinned fellows), have more of such idioms and metaphors than we could probably imagine possible. I will refer Borne to the works of Ronald Langacker, a prominent cognitive linguist. Please check him out, he has done some phenomenal work on the connections between language, perception and belief.
But you have a point brother Bourne. How do we engineer language to be commensurate with the needs of a people at a particular given time? That will be an interesting area to conduct research in. The UTG could perhaps apply for funds from UNESCO to undertake such critical look at our languages and how they influence our attitudes.
So Bourne, Domorr Foday was probably going through some mental lapse or food induced amnesia as he’s wont to do.
The reason that we can apply the adage, Faa Fisa Ning Faa Kaawa KUU to Wisainou and Haadama.
Mwalimu, isn’t Ronald Lanacker, “the prominent cognitive linguist” of another persuasion?
Or is he “Afrikkan”?
Help me clear my perception of a conflict here.
Andrew Pjalo, naturally they are ‘faa fisa ning faa kaawa kuu’ because it’s quite obvious that the two (Wisainou and Haadama), are both mangsaaling peppered folks who will look up at themselves in the mirror every morning and smile and say to themselves, “keebaa fala kuumaa, simaayaa duwaa dorong. Can’t you see that Wisainou and Haadama have unexpectedly seen their dreams come through? To latter, it’s not about oath of office and public duty anymore but just more food for them while the rest of the citizens look frail and malnourished. No need to wonder if Domorr Foday is going through a mental lapse or food induced amnesia? I don’t actually have a problem with adages or its sort but I have a problem with most people’s understanding of them.
…. amnesia.
Race and persuasion are worlds apart. I count prof. R.Langacker as a white ally, who has expressed some very pro blakk sentiments in one of his interviews. He accepts he is privileged by virtue of his race and is willing to listen and dialogue and to support the blakk course without attempting to influence decisions.
BUT one thing is getting on my nerves on this platform. Any time I talk or better still write about white people, there are a few people who either try to go on the defensive for them or tries to attack me for those views.
I have done a lot of what I will consider teaching on the subject matter of race and racism in this space. Am coming to the realization that many would like to redicule an uncompromising pro blakk activist who is 100% down for his people. That’s a red flag.
From now on, such attitudes towards me or my views will not be treated with the usual amount of courtesy in trying to explain and provide contextual information. The deliberate ploy to silence a BLAKK VOICE will not work. It will only become stronger and louder.
You’re being edgy and thin skinned Bro.
You’re, by inference, adding a whole new dimension to a simple question aimed at clearing a perceived dichotomy.
There’s also no reason to believe that you’re not a progressive with the readership.
Common Andy, you know very well that was a petty question. Am not some light weight thin skinned sensitive pseudo freedom fighter coming from the fringes. Trust me, I have done the trenches and come out many times unscathed.
I have had some very educative and even some entertaining exchanges with you and many others here.
Yet, it must also be said that we have our differing views on what I consider to be the mother of all discourses and disciplines in the humanities, which is race.
There are people who will read me as not a progressive or even a primitive stuck in the past. That’s their prerogative and I really don’t care.
If there is only one blakk person out there, whom am able to enlighten and free from mental subjugation and the historic distortion of the truth, am satisfied with that result.
Am out.
Mwalimu, what is the significance in writing Africa>Afrikka and Black>Blakk?
Do you regret having read a lot of books by white authors?
What do you think of racists; are they savage?
Lord have mercy! Y’all don’t get it. Do you?
Am not answering those questions anyway. Do your homework and read stuff on spelling practices. Find out why the British spell color with a “u” and the Amerikkkans without a “u”. That will give you some clue. But I suspect you have never taken the time to find that out. Why you won’t ask them but ask me, is very obvious. Psychologically , they have the power and are entitled to an own identity in every setting and in every practice without anyone daring to question them.
The level of self loathing I see in us is unprecedented. I am sure the next question will be why I write with the so called Latin alphabet and speak English.
To all those who have attempted to silence the only uncompromising blakk voice on this platform, I’ve got news for you:
From now on, it’s going to be rough. If you have questions on blakk his-and-her story, blakk culture, blakk contemporary issues and blakk everything, do your own findings before posing them to me. This ain’t no primary school where kids are not yet familiar with learning resources.
I mean how can I regret reading books by white authors? What kind of question is that and who in his/her right mind will ask such a question. It’s not me who is suppose to be under scrutiny here, it’s the topic of race, racism and white supremacy. A few happen to feel compel to do the work of the white devil for him. I’ve got news for you. You can’t stop us, so just relax and consume and desire all you can. We will be at work for the mental liberation of our people through revolutionary work.
This thread has got more than five thousand clicks. Am sure someone somewhere is becoming freer and even spreading the message to the next brother or sister. Many will be called but the choosen are few. And no matter what happens, the true revolutionary warriors will be standing to the very bitter end.
Your onslaughts are temporary. Our conviction is eternal.
I cannot be punched around by my own people. I have learned from the mistakes of past blakk activists. And the lessons are very valuable.
Peace!
Mwalimu, lord have mercy on me and lord have mercy on you!
I wouldn’t ask why in Mali, they say > Anninche and in the Gambia > Ìninnbaara, so as I wouldn’t ask why it is football in Britain and soccer in the U.S. You seem to imply that your spelling versions too, are legit, by arguing that Americans would drop a U in some English words. Anyway, I hope history has not proven again that indeed, b-l-a-c-k is a black African word. Man, how can you be so repulsive to white literacy and at the same time be quoting once in a while from white authors or even relying on their findings at times as correct and valuable information. Man, it doesn’t take merely language in order for one to be able to develop devices such as laptops and smartphones, that makes it possible for us to be making such exchanges on this platform.
If there is any substance in your version of spelling of ‘black’ ‘blakk’, you should have clarified that even if it is at least the hype name brand of a recording rapper. Man, you seem to be wandering in the abstract and not walking out of it anytime soon. That’s fine, good luck.
Nonetheless, shouldn’t you be sorry for yourself that you had your primary schooling in colonial one? I’m happy I didn’t attend one so I don’t have a thing to lose.
Saying; “A few happen to feel compel to do the work of the white devil for him”, is stemming from nothing but mere insinuations that indicates signs of serious psychological challenge in a person. I have nothing to stop or let go as far as the world affairs are concerned for I need not to say that, I am no astronomical pillar for the globe to rest on. Man oh man, it is under your own skin you live and come from. You too, are not to be easily seen through by other black people simply because you claim to be a black activist. Black activist for who? You won’t be able to set the standards for me on this platform likewise I can’t set it for you. What I will always be doing here is try to find the logic in fellow countryman’s ideologies, opinions and views with respect to the country’s inter/national debate. I don’t remember ever seeing the number of followers on a certain thread but then if there are more followers, I would say: thumps up Jollofnews! They deserve to take credit for that.
Mr. man, I don’t think anyone is trying to punch you around if not yourself knocking your head off in the darkness.
To be frank to myself, I think the people I despise more are these emerging mini Mussolinis, Hitlers, Doom Trump.ets and Wangjalankas. God heal their hearts.
* … nothing to lose
Leadership is measured by one’s capacity to gauge potential/promise in team members and participants and to further motivate the team into buying into and sharing the broader vision.
Once these traits are absent and supplanted by virulence, under arm tactics, take-it-or-leave-it bitter pills, sectarianism, fundamentalism and picking corners, there’ll be nothing but doom in the offing.
One can as well keep his/her corner, crawl into a cocoon, smoke joints all they want and stick to solitude and belligerence for comfort! Whatever it is that makes them feel at home. My two cents.
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Critical self self evaluation is the beginning of progress in a society.
I was going to wait until all the coons congregate to give a one-size-fits-all response that will probably put this topic to rest finally. It’s however clear that the cartridges are spent. Personal attacks abound, but shrouded as advice and words of counsel. You can’t bend a will molded out of pure steel. All the neocon reps sprouting all over the place does not sake me an inch. Am as steadfast as Mount Kilimanjaro.
The process of decolonizing the mind must inadvertently begin with oneself. A mind that could be decolonized by others is not one that trumpets self hate at every opportunity. A people prostituted for 500 years are asked to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and the same people go on to cheer that as the solution to all their problems, is a sign of some deep mental issues. I don’t think even Frantz Fanon will have a name for that condition.
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I have said many times here that am not interested in sugar coating the radical, uncompromising and pro blakk stance I knew I was born to spread and am willing to sacrifice limb and neck for my people to be liberated from a creolized identity and a creolized knowledge of self. I was not high on cannabis when I made that decision. And I knew the going will get tough, but I will never roll into a cocoon. Well only if am gone from this transient life.
For info, I don’t do -isms and never claimed to be anyone’s leader. There are far more qualified people who are better at leading the masses. Am just a part of the unbending and unapologizing masses who was born to do it his way. Feel it.
Do the “critical self self evaluation ” and in our case you will find nothing but a people conditioned through the consumption of western mass media and miseducating to be proud to be western and white in their ways. Even though the office and the factory are the new slave plantations for most people, still they are happy to be part of that exploitation. And above all, not to have a voice whilst the profits end up in Swiss banks. Gaddammit, at least be honest to yourselves that you have surrendered or are about to surrender to the white bastards who invade our lands, enslave and colonize us. Respect the blakk bodies and souls that went through hell in the western and eastern hemispheres to build a world economy that makes it possible for us to be today drowned in mass consumption.
For some of you, race is not even worth talking about because it’s in the past. What a belated intra mural collective amnesia is getting hold of well fed and well paid blakk people?
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I cannot respond to questions like “Mwalimu, do you hate white people ”?
Or why are you quoting this and that?
For those are questions that a slave who was about to be freed by Harriet Tubman asked. She just shook her head and said “I have saved a thousand slaves, I would have saved another thousand if they knew they are slaves”. She slaughtered him to avoid him divulging their freedom route to his masters. That’s the abstract you will find in trump.
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Those who wish, could dash to the arsenal for more guns and bullets.
As for Mwalimu, you know where to find me.
As always, in service.
The link that I posted here yesterday was an audio sent to me by a Gambian brother. I am not sure if I am going to spell the speaker’s name correctly, but I think her name is Marito or Murito Seneua or something like that. In the audio she talks about “Five Reasons Why Africa is Poor.” May be anyone of you can google the title and see what you find. What the author says in the audio can be reduced to “critical self evaluation” and hence my comment. My posting was not directed at a single person, but Mwalimu actually put in quotation what I wrote. Mwalimu, if you for a moment think my comment was directed at you, then you are delusional. Based on the debates we have had on this forum, you should by now know that if I wanted to say something to you, I will direct it at you and call you by name. That much should be clear to you. What we all know about each other on this forum are the things we post. And the things we post reveal somethings about each one of us. Word are an extension of our thoughts. So by reading what others write, one can make some pretty good inferences. Now, some of the postings in this forum, if you follow them to their logical ends, one finds contradictions that cannot be resolved. I leave it at that. I chose not to post anything on this forum until I believe my posting can help edify. If I am sure that what I am about to post will not edify, I decide against posting it. I really do not care what anyone thinks about me. I think that should be clear to all who have been posting on this forum for a while. The things I have said here a few months ago still holds because I have not seen any evidence to convince me otherwise.
I knew they will come. But this fast and furious? That was not what I anticipated, but all the same.
Samba you and I have had no debate. It was an exchange.
You are delusional to think anyone will care to care about what you think they think of you.
If you post a link on a thread without explaining that it has no connection to the topic at hand, it’s fair game to assume it’s part and parcel of whatever exchange happens to be hot on the table.
Finally, you posting or not is not the question here. Stay, go or hang around is left to each and all. Convince you? Only you can convince yourself. I, personally, am responsible for what I say. How you understand it, is your piece of potato.
A link when posted, is meant to be clicked on and listen to and if it is something to read, you click on it and read it. Why explain a link that when clicked on speaks for itself? Nice thinking! Before responding to a link, at least know what is in it or listen to it. You can call what we had an exchange or whatever you want. I never said “for you” to convince me lol! I said, the things I have said here a few months ago hold true because I have not seen any evidence to make me take back what I said. I never expect you to convince me of anything, trust me. You are not an original thinker. You are not a critical thinker. You parrot other peoples’ thoughts when it suits you, and even when you do not completely understand what that person said. You get data but you cannot analyze that data and hence you make invalid inferences. You use a term in a sentence and then use the same term in another sentence in a totally difference sense. Do you know what that is called?I could go on and on, but why bother lol! What I am saying can be verified in your postings. It is sad that you do not even see the bad thinking in your postings. Huffing and puffing, the Mwalimu way, does not convince anyone of anything but logical thinking does. When you are forced to use your brain a little bit, then the insults and name callings, bullets and sticks and whatever start to come. You are as empty as they come. I am saying this not as a personal attack to you but based on your postings. I do not know you personally so everything I say about you is based on your postings. Mwalimu, last week I wrote a two part article online titled “Pardon Me, Mr. President” did you read it lol! I think you did and if you have not, you should check it out. By the way, I sent the article to the editor of this site and they refused to post it on Jollownews. Do you have something to do with that lol! And yes, it is my piece of potato. Lol!
Crispy fried potatoes are delicious especially when they are those grown, fried and packaged in the Gambia, but a lot more delicious still, just freshly fried from the kitchen, accompanied by the ‘famous Gambian fried fish’. Oh but then, how much does a kilo of potatoes cost in the Gambia? Should it take that much to sufficiently grow potatoes in the Gambia? I know I have to find the answers to the above questions in my own backyard by trying to grow some potatoes enough at least for my household consumption. If I can’t have a market for any excess potatoes, having artisanal food processing know how helps guarantee the availability of potato products in the family kitchen stock at all seasons of the year.
I rather work with a team out to help Gambian households rare more livestock and make cheese and butter, at least enough for their household consumption, rather than much ado about how butter and cheese should be called in various languages, because the taste of cheese and butter shall eventually be pronounced in each and every Gambian tongue. I find it more an important issue in the Gambia, finding sustainable and safer waste disposal and recycling techniques than prove to the world that life all started on earth when I bought my watch.
*rear more ….
Samba,
You bore me to death.
Next!
Mwalimu, I think you might have taken Samba’s provided link to the audio too personal. I’ve not really listened to it but I felt too, as if it has been directed to me. That’s what every good piece, audio/written are suppose to do. They should encourage people to reflect on their own weaknesses and shortfalls. People without a will for critical self evaluation are likely to bore themselves to death.
Hey! He posted a link that was not accessible in the first.
Give me a break on self reflection and all that crap.
Your agenda is not to turn a weakness into strength, but to debunk Afrocentricity which I stand for. Try you can, but am no weakling who is going to succumb to your playground antics.
I did not take anything personal. Look at the accompanying sentence to the link and tell me it has no bearing on the issue(s) we were talking about.
This is becoming really frivolous and I have no inclination to entertain the continuation of a ping-pong game in naught.
No, No, No, Bourne. Please stay under your skin and be purple or, violet …??
Hey! you’re not standing a crap for Africa. Just stand for Gambia right now and see. Try making it a role model in the subregion and see what other Africans can learn from it. I didn’t self reflect .., you do. Your fond of making it up all and making it look like something that’s all got to weigh on you, the Hercules. You clearly demonstrate you’re a bad stunt when we’re not suppose to be in the movies, much less making a bad movie. It’s nothing bro but crap. Just crap. That’s all.
Hey Jack, sorry but that can happen when you use a different e-mail with your name. I didn’t even noticed it until I read your query. I can’t just always be staying under my skin but don’t worry.
Hey Bourne and Jack, Bax would say, Order, Order!
Bourne, Jack Alfaa Bax would say, Order, order!!
I regret my spat with Biram Ma Cha Kajorr! Smile.
Andrew Pjalo, I’ve recalled Bax many times calling for order at complicated times, but what on earth could a spat with Biram Ma Cha Kajorr be? Can you please tell me the meaning of this heavy and grotesque sounding … Cha Kajorr. Could be Hindu, Persian or Bantu ..?
My smiled is a puzzled one right now.
Bourne, it is actually Wollof.
Similar to what in Manding is, Ntong Korma Kaari when one doesn’t want to mention names. So I’m doing some Faraba Nyantang here. Just like I can call a Minister of Tourism, WULU KABAANO or NYINNA JALLO. Smile again.
Welcome back from the hiatus Samba. Acha Chi Ndabb Li.