The APRC conversation between Yaya, Yankuba and Fabakary is not only rude and immoral but also highlights the misfortune that befell a nation that was led by such a bunch idiots for so long!
The audio reflects the vanity of the APRC and these individuals in particular which goes to show, with so much pain indeed, the tragedy that befell The Gambia. To imagine that these people did indeed occupy the highest offices of the land and presided over the lives and destiny of our people for a generation indeed shows how low and misguided The Gambia was forced into.
One can see the lack of morals and decency and unpatriotism in their conversation. One can see how they devalue women and how they had lived a life of promiscuity and abuse of our women. It shows that during the APRC Dictatorship the leaders of this party had a vacation and penchant for sexual exploitation of our women and girls.
They used their position and power to misuse public resources to exploit our women and girls with impunity. They show us how they conveniently and without conscience abused and misused public wealth for their self gratification!
It’s so disheartening to hear how Fabakary Tombong Jatta would gleefully and unceremoniously joke about Yankuba using public money to enjoy women. Yet they all could laugh and take that to be normal and okay.
If anything, this audio merely shows the nature and extent of the vanity and immorality of Yaya Jammeh and his stooges. Indeed it shows that the APRC and its leadership were only engaged in prostituting our women and girls as well as plundering public resources and personalizing public institutions for selfish ends.
They do not love or care about The Gambia but they merely see The Gambia as a resource to exploit. They never stood up for any values or standards nor do they seek any tangible national objective in any way. Indeed this audio is the highest insult that could be inflicted on a society by people who are expected to serve with respect and honesty.
If there is anything we should learn from this audio is that it was good riddance that APRC Cancer was uprooted. It is to teach citizens to seek decent, moral, honest and patriotic leaders. It is to teach us to be vigilant to check our leaders and institutions including political parties to ensure that they uphold and practice good values and high standards of decency, honest politics and good governance.
Yaya Jammeh and Yankuba Colley and Fabakary Tombong Jatta are indeed the worse sons of The Gambia!
For The Gambia Our Homeland
Honestly many Gambian were sleeping for 22years during Jammehs time in power. This guy scared majority Gambian up to the level were by some of them thought he is a supernatural president so they have no hope to stand up against him. One thing about yahya Jammeh is that, he is selfish.
This is some BS self righteous indignation. We all know what was going on long before now. The sexual exploitation, the abuse, the rape. Did you guys raise the alarm. Not once. Our society still treat women like second class citizens. Do you care. Nope. Now just because Yahya and the gang of fools are caught with their pants down. Suddenly it is fashionable to proclaim disgust. Never mind you have encouraged and supported this immoral sexual deviant actions all the while.
You know who is to blame. You Madi and all of you Gambian men that did nothing to protect your daughters, wives and mothers. You are all cowards. It is a shame that even now our society is awash with same behavior that Yahya was gleefully describing.
Concerning the conversation between these fools. Truth be told only impotent men talk that way. Given the opportunity, the testimony from their wives will be that, these idiots are softer than cooked spaghetti in bed.
Hahaha! You said it all.
Thanks sister Dr isatou that’s the naked truth madi is just fake who has nothing to offer to the gambian except his negativity and self centered ego with his hypocritical games he is playing to smash heads of gambians against each other, he is just a fake ass and a hypocrite.
Where is babu soli?You heard your hero yaya jammeh.
Pa babu soli I think you now surrender to us now because am sure must have heard of the audio circulating every where over watsup the conversation between yaya jammeh and his crucks I think you swallow tour bitter words now and us to fine a way forward in developing gambian and the livelihood of our dear moms,sisters,fathers and brothers and onething very scary is what is jammeh into till by telling tombong jatta that he is upto something when materialise it will be ok?can you help us with that,because am sure I have a very good contact with jammeh
Observation: Madi’s take on the leaked conversation between Yaya Jammeh and his cronies in the APRC, from the moralistic perspective, is appropriate and spot on as it exposes the sickening behaviour of a great number of Gambian men towards women. It is a shameful exposure of the (acquired/alien) decadence in the moral fibre of Gambian society, as women are very much complicit in the way men treat them. Let’s be honest about it, women lead men on in many ways towards this promiscuous, immoral and “free for all” attitudes towards each other.
However, there is another perspective from which we can approach this issue and that’s the security dimension. There is enough material in this leaked audio (not sure if its a different one), not only to get us all worried about the security implications thereof, but also about the competence/incompetence of the Barrow/Darboe Administration to keep our country safe from subversion within.
It is abundantly clear from this audio, that not only are individuals within the country in direct contact with Yaya Jammeh, a fugitive and wanted person in this country, but that he (Jammeh) still has considerable influence and power over them and can direct them to do things.
Also evident is the fact that the top echelons of the APRC do not only owe 100% allegiance to Yaya Jammeh, but he has absolute power over them, is in full control of the party and pulling the strings from afar.
The APRC, in my view, has thus become a SUBVERSIVE ORGANISATION and the government would be making a terrible mistake and putting the country’s security at risk, if they continue to treat the APRC as a genuine political party. It must be made conditional that for the APRC to continue existing as a political party in the country, they must SEVER all relations with Yaya Jammeh immediately and be required to report any attempts from Jammeh to have contact with the party, whether that’s from party officials or the general membership.
Those people who were within the leadership of the APRC Administration, either as civilians or security chiefs, and are still in the government/security or out of government, but cozying up to the Barrow/Darboe Administration should be viewed with extreme caution. Because these people still see Jammeh as their president, and like the Israelites of old, are still awaiting and preparing for his return to power. Rambo Jatta manifested that attitude recently on the Standard Newspaper, when he is reported to have said that Yaya Jammeh will come back to rule The country.
I don’t know about you guys, but if I know Yaya Jammeh from his time in power, I can put my neck on the line and proclaim aloud that he and the APRC are up to no good, and it is up to the Barrow/Darboe Administration to take the necessary steps to insulate the country from the APRC plans. They might say with their mouths that they accepted this government, but that’s not what is in their hearts.
Unfortunately, this power hungry and power grabbing administration has got its eyes off the ball, is not alive to the security threats facing us from within and that’s going to be our collective downfall.
Bax said. “Let’s be honest about it, women lead men on….”.
That is very disappointing and sexist. Now we are blaming the poor victims. We are truly in trouble in this country. God help us.
I’m sorry to disappoint you Dr I. Sarr, but let me ask you this: Have you ever watched the music video, “Bine, bine” by the female Senegalese artist, Kumba Gawlo Seck? I used to be embarrassed to watch it when it comes on Goudi Artists on GRTS.
Are you telling me that’s not “leading men on?” I know the reactions that video elicit in those watching it and it’s NOT positive towards/about women.
There is a difference between an entertainment video and institutional misogyny and societal sexism expressed by the view in your writing.
On the bright side Bax your general writings and views on this forum is at odds with that one response.
There’s a difference; a very big difference indeed, but the question should be: What does the video do to the agenda of institutional misogyny and sexism? Does it promote or discourage it? I think it promotes it and that’s the point I’m making.
Allow me to remind you on your views regarding Africa’s pathetic economic situation. It is your view (and I agree with you 100%) that the burden of reversing our situation rests on our shoulders (we the victims of slavery, colonialism and imperialism) and you have always suggested XYZ to be done to achieve this task. That’s not blaming the victims. That’s just the truth.
I must say, I find it odd too, that you wouldn’t place a similar burden on the shoulders of women (victims of institutional misogyny & sexism) to reverse this situation by doing or refusing to do XYZ. Why the reservation?
I am not denying the nature of our societies and the role men play in it, but I disagree with any view that absolves women (actual victims) of any role in the continued existence of this “world”.
Take the man gets his gratification from looking at women’s thighs, waist bids (jalijali) and underpants (doross; please excuse my language), as an example. So, he goes to a Sabarr (Wolof drumming) and positions himself strategically.
That action alone by itself, wouldn’t guarantee him what he wants to see. It is the actions of the dancers that will provide for his gratification, and these dancers have a CHOICE, to either dance in a way that exposes what the man wants to see or not.
That men (imaginatively) promote or set self exposure as the standard for best Sabarr dance is immaterial, unless women uphold and practice it as such and where there is choice, then they (women) cannot be completely absolved from partaking in the creation and maintenance of the misogynist and sexist world. It’s PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
Bax this is the difference for me.
Gambian women are victims every day.
They are helpless because our society and cultural norms relegate women to second class status.
As opposed to my position on African political elites, rulers and dictators. As a Nation in 2018. We are not helpless, we are willing actors and in most instances architects of our own downfall.
You can’t say that about our hardworking daughters, wives and mothers.
As a first step, that Army should be disbanded now and a new one formed as soon as possible. There are enough young graduates coming from different institutions in the country, including UTG, to build a fresh, clean and untainted officer core across the Armed Forces, including The Gambia Police Force.
I would have appointed Ebrima Chongan, if he is still fit and able, as the IGP to lead the reform process of the Police Force and identify a competent, qualified, retired Gambian Officer who had served, either in the US/UK Armies, to oversee the Army until a suitable candidate can be trained and appointed.
ECOMIG cannot guarantee our security for ever and a half hearted security sector reform process is NOT the solution. We need a wholesale overhauling of these decadent institutions if we can be assured of future stability. Failure to act now will have serious repercussions in the future.
Bax,
I beg to differ on your take, on how our women position themselves on the food chain.
Women in our society bear the brunt of a culture (acquired AND Alien) of oppression and exploitation. Both sexually and economically. We men have set standards of beauty and behavior for our women folk which are meant to objectify their bodies and feelings for our gratification.
How are men responsible for that? Bleaching the skin to chemically alter the dark melanin complexion, for example, is practiced by many women because our society (a patriarchal one) has set light skin tones as the parameter to measure a woman’s beauty, therefore her desirability.
I assume when you say women lead men, you mean through their dress codes, women temp men into all kinds of deviant thoughts and behaviors. I might understand you wrongly, but here is my opinion on that. Through clothing, society is still setting the standards of desire and sensuality for women. The clothes our women adorn are predominantly purchased with cash provided for by men. These could be husbands, boyfriends, brothers, uncles, lovers etc.
Don’t you think temptation is willingly sponsored by men?
Mwalimu….
I agree with you on the patriarchal nature of our societies and how men may set the standards for, say, beauty and success. ( in marriage, for example).
My contention though, is this: Men may very well set the standards in beauty for their gratification, but women are very much complicit by promoting those standards into acceptance, through wilful participation.
Because where there is CHOICE, individuals must take FULL PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITIES for the choices they make.
Men may hand money to women and even pressure them to buy bleaching lotions/cream, but the choice to (or not to) bleach is theirs. I place a very high premium on Personal Responsibility and as long as people aren’t FORCED to do what they do, I will hold them fully responsible for the choices they make.
Women are not regarded as the building blocks and corner stones of society for no reason. As mothers and teachers (In the home), they are part and parcel of this entity called “SOCIETY” and have a huge influence on how it is shaped. Those men talking so disrespectfully about women were once children growing up in a home. I will NEVER talk like that about women, and I am sure that none of my siblings would, because of how we were brought up.
Today, it is not uncommon for mums, sisters and aunts to literally deride their children (boys/girls) for not having girl/boy friends. That’s not how it has always been.
Here’s another observation: except for perverts, rapists and all that group of scum bags, a man will mostly approach a woman in a sexual nature because he recognised the signs in her body language. There are a very few men who would dare approach a woman whose body language “isn’t right.”
That may be sexist, but it’s the truth.
Bax, there are a few things you are missing. When has women in our Gambian society ever controlled anything? Take a look at a women who has been married for twenty five years and has been divorced by her husband. What happens to her? She leaves and go find a place to live, usually at her parents home. No support whatsoever. Even though her contributions as a home care taker has contributed a great deal to the successes of the working husband. And the husband has a choice to take care of the children financially among other things which most men in our Gambian society do not do. The husband would then remarry and life goes on. And if a woman demands respect and attention, she is threatened with, you guessed it, divorce. Unbelievable!
You are using yourself as an example of our Gambian society on this topic and that is misplaced. Based on what you said about your upbringing, if we go by you, we won’t be talking about this issue. The fact that you see more of the opposite should tell you something.
Are you saying that women have to act in a certain way so that men are not tempted? What about how men are supposed to conduct themselves? Is there a standard now in Gambian society as to how men are to conduct themselves towards our women? You and I come from a society where when you respect your wife or girlfriend and actually spend time with her and do romantic stuff with her you are called by other men whipped.
On Temptation. There are two ways people are tempted. By the senses and psychologically. We have more control over the senses than the mind. For example, if a woman dresses in a certain way, you and i have a choice not to stare. We also have a choice not to go to places where we may be tempted or put ourselves in positions where we may be tempted and fall for it. How many men in our society avoid those things and places. In fact, they plunge head on and bragged about it too. What they do not realize is that when they bragged about their exploits, they are bragging about been voluntary slaves without knowing it.
On the psychologically part: It goes like this, first comes the thought, then the pleasure that comes from the thought, then the suggestion to go get or satisfy that thought and lastly the satisfaction of that thought. How does a person control this part? It is almost impossible to control without assistant from on high. Yes, there is a theological dimension to this. Without reliance on God it cannot successfully be done. Temptation come everyday as you and I are well aware of, but there are remedies. To continually fall for the temptations that come our way is the worse form of slavery, because for starters, it is voluntary slavery unlike conventional slavery. When the passions rule over a person, there you have a true slave because instead of the rational faculty leading the way, the passions lead the way. Here is a very good example of that in the person of dictator Jammeh. Have you guys thought about why the longer he was in power the more crude he got! Ok, I will now be accused of bring religion into this. Or someone will now call me a theologian or whatever! Have a blessed day everyone.
Samba…
You’re not a theologian, but you certainly won’t get away by “hiding” behind the One from “on high” for your manly lust. (lol)
Here’s the thing Samba:
1. I’m talking about CHOICE: where there is choice. I won’t blame the divorced woman because of the absence of choice.
2. I am aware that using my personal experience is flawed, but it is the role of women, as teachers in the home, that I was highlighting, rather than my own moral composition. In other words, what I’m saying is that the misogynist and sexist world we live in will die out, if every mother inculcates the respect and equal treatment of women in their male children. That is by no means the ONLY solution, but I’m only talking about the “complicity” of women in this world we live in and looking at the issue from that perspective.
3. I agree with your take on Temptation and if I ever come across a man who complains about women dressed in certain way in certain places, then I will raise the issue of choice with him. If it was his choice to look or go to those places, then the same rule applies. It is his personal responsibility to do or not to do.
Where there is CHOICE, the responsibility lies with the individual, regardless of position (victim or not). That’s my position.
Bax, i am not saying that women do not have choices. They certainly do. The question is what are those choices? Not all choices are created equally. And some choices are not worth calling choices at all. As for mothers as teachers, I believe every good teacher would like to have his or her pupil comes out right. But there are other things at play. Some created by the societies we live in and others by things beyond human control. Let’s concentrate on those things created by us. How about our very own Gambia! How are most of our women viewed by Gambian men? That may have a lot to do with how women view themselves. As partners or as objects ? There are certain expectations on women in our society but that is not the case with us men. And there is not a level playing field at all. When a woman sleeps with a guy, she is a prostitute but when a man sleeps with not just one but many women, he is viewed as “The Man”! Look at our laws, how do they protect women? When our politicians talk about women issues or rather pay lip service to them, you know election season is near. Our women have certain places they have to be and may not cross. Are there boundaries for us men? We do not need to bring outside influence in order to see what is going on within. That is not to say outside influences have not played a role. Let’s move away from our cities and go into the country and take a peek at what is going on out there. We will then have a better picture of our women in our society. Focusing in Banjul/Kombo area does not give an accurate picture of things. Let’s look at our women who have never set foot in classroom. Never used the internet or experienced a fan or air condition and the like. Those ones never show off any body part unlike our so-called civilized one. How are those in the villages treated by us men. We are talking about Women and not women from a particular area but all women generally in The Gambia. If we concentrate on the women in the Banjul/Kombo area as representative of Gambian women then we are looking at just a part of the picture and that would be incomplete.
Bax, your argument for self care, self preservation and responsibility are indeed very compelling. I will go as far as to say the generally now accepted norm to attract over hyped sexual desire from others and unto others is alien to our cultures. The culprits? The beastial savages.
Yet, women at the receiving end of these insatiable lust are victims, not the perpetrators and they are deserving of our protection.
Yes, the media culture imported from the West fuels the objectification of women’s bodies for cheap entertainment and commercial exploitation. It’s an undeniable fact that many women like the musician you mentioned (unknowingly), contribute to their own objectification and the oppression of their fellow women.
But we also have black people (knowingly and unknowingly), contributing to their own enslavement and the anihilation of our race.
What am trying to say is, you can’t both be a victim and a perpetrator simultaneously. It’s that one or the other.
Mwalimu…
You wait until I tell you about my experience with my darling, sweet wife. You might change your mind about “victims & perpetrators simultaneously”. Trust me, one can be both in some exceptional cases, and this “women’s world” is one such case.
“What does the video do to the agenda of institutional misogyny and sexism? Does it promote or discourage it? I think it promotes it and that’s the point I’m making…”
#Bax, like in every (all) aspects, there’re few (very few) women too engaged in the exploitation of their fellow female folk regardless, alongside the male chauvinistic society (Gambia) of ours; somebody’s been prosecuted recently for trafficking & duping some women from an African country, on promises of jobs & prospects, only to be holed up in Germany into forced prostitution against their will in a brothel being run by (this) a UK resident, etc, etc; on financial exploration, rather than on general complicity….?
The economic status of the community too, alongside our societal norms (principally) are influential factors amongst…
What else options could there be (left), for the defenseless women folk in the circumstantial aspects….?
Samba..
You will be surprised how many village women would yearn to have false (Brazilian) hair weaved onto their heads to beautify themselves. Wait until it’s “Tobaski” or Christmas.
I have no disagreements with the unfair structures/systems of society that deny women their RIGHTS, but there are many who happily participate in this world that sexualise, commercialise and reduce women into mere objects of gratification. And woe to the man who shows disapproval.
Lol! I though we were talking about how women’s conduct invite men in our society to act as they do. The village women may yearn to have false hair weaved onto their heads but most cannot afford it so they can’t have it anyway. And of course, I was not saying all village women in The Gambia are holier than thou. We were talking about how the conduct of women in our society bring certain things on themselves and I tried to make you look at the entire spectrum, across the board so to speak. As you know, how the women in our big cities dress and behave is not the same as how our women in our village dress. I do not view our women in our cities as the representative of Gambian women in general. I look at Gambian women from all geographical locations in The Gambia.If in some areas in The Gambia, our women are treated very well and in other areas they are treated like objects, I do not think women in The Gambia are then treated well. Because to me, women in one area of The Gambia are no more women than women in any other area of The Gambia. Same goes for the men too. Though our women in the cities may sometimes dress and act in ways that bring lots of attention to themsleves, that is definitely not the case in our villages. However, one thing is common to Gambian women, most Gambian men see them as objects of desire; regardless of how they may dress whether in our cities or in our villages. It is a hard fact. Exchanges like we are having are judged as Western thinking, whatever that means. It is not how one thinks that makes a thing what it is. A thing is what is it and no amount of thinking or “different” thinking will change the thing for what it is. Whatever different thinking may be used, if there is anything like that, will not change the fact that in The Gambia, most men see our women as object of desire. So the accusation of Western thinking, Asian thinking, African thinking is BS. Thinking is similar to all persons. Of Course, persons can be engaged in thinking about different subject matters but that does not mean thinking is different from one person to another.